Rufus Griswold: an investigation of 19th century women poets must go through him—and Poe.
The female poet was a major literary force in 19th century America, and this happy circumstance lingered in the early 20th century, with poets like Edna Millay and Dorothy Parker, but that dream faded as modern tastes took hold, and men dominated the profession once more. The names of those 19th century women poets are forgotten and no renaissance of any note has been attempted in America in the name of the female poet. Influential male writers—Walt Whitman, Henry James, and Mark Twain, to name a few, were not impressed by female versifiers and made it known they thought women poets were silly. The ‘Pound Era’ wiped out ‘The Poetess’ for good, as even Millay was abused by the Pound clique, and the whole lot of 19th century female poets fell into neglect—most readers today can only name Emily Dickinson.
Modernism wanted nothing to do with the Romantic or Victorian spirit in poetry—and as a direct result, woman’s poetry, one could say, became a casualty of the 20th century, too.
From the introduction to American Women Poets of the Nineteenth Century: An Anthology, (Rutgers 1992) the editor, Cheryl Walker, writes:
Given the almost total neglect accorded nineteenth-century popular women poets, it is a pleasure to be able to show through an anthology that these writers were neither all alike nor without merit.
The ability to earn significant amounts of money by publishing poetry in the popular media certainly provided an impetus for women to write verse. Until relatively recently, however, it was assumed that women were composing their poems in isolated cottages or garrets, cut off from the mainstream of literary life. In Literary Women, for instance, Ellen Moers asserted: “Women through most of the nineteenth century were barred from the universities, isolated in their own homes, chaperoned in travel, painfully restricted in friendship. The give-and-take of literary life was closed to them.” The Bronte sisters and Emily Dickinson were taken to be typical of woman’s lot. Today, in contrast, we know that Emily Dickinson was very much the exception among American women poets. By and large, literary women on this side of the Atlantic were not isolated from each other, secretly composing in the upstairs bedroom, but were actively involved with a world simultaneously social and intellectual. One feature of this world was the literary salon.
As early as 1830, Lydia Sigourney was earning an income by selling her productions to over twenty periodicals.
…literary life in America was an arena distinctly more favorable to women in the late nineteenth century than it had been in its earliest decades. In an 1887 memoir of Lydia Sigourney, John Greenleaf Whittier reflected: “She sang alone, ere womanhood had known/The gift of song that fills the air today.” By the 1870s the many minor poets who found their way into the popular magazines were about equally male and female.
Today it is fashionable to decry market forces, but women poets in the 19th century benefited from the rise of industry and capitalism. Female poetry grew with America’s growth. Enlightenment and Romantic ideals helped women, as well. Henry James and Walt Whitman may not have taken 19th century women poets seriously, but Edgar Allan Poe did. Poe was also a casualty of 20th modernist criticism, his rich legacy swept aside by the impatience of gum-chewing, jazz age critics. Little brass poems and ’let’s wow ‘em’ experimental poems rejected the old sublime, which lingered, but by the 1930s was dead, hauled off by a little red wheel barrow. American poetry became odd, and women poets who had written in the old ways were forgotten. Radio was the sentimental masterpiece now, not books of poems. With radio and film, women were pretty and sang, they were dolls to movie tough-guys, not poets anymore.
What’s really odd is how much 19th century women’s poetry and Edgar Poe go hand in hand. You can’t read an account of 19th century woman poets without running into Poe at every turn; Poe, more than any other figure in the 19th century, reviewed and supported women poets, was worshiped by them at the literary salons. Not only that, the greatest anthologist of woman poets in the 19th century, a Poe rival for the attention of literary women, but a man known today only because of Poe—not for his literary efforts on behalf of women—is Rufus Griswold, who almost single-handedly mauled Poe’s reputation, putting into circulation the false rumors of the lonely drug fiend and alcoholic in his obituary in Horace Greeley’s Tribune. Elizabeth Oakes-Smith, a prominent poet in Cheryl Walker’s anthology, quoted by Herman Melville and married to a famous humorist, wrote now-suppressed magazine articles of how Poe was beaten and murdered. Fanny Osgood, another well-known American poet of this time, her husband a reputed portrait painter, supposedly had an affair with Poe. Helen Whitman, still another poet of note in the 19th century, was going to marry Poe until Greeley and Griswold conspired to put an end to it.
Poe’s murder in 1849 coincided with Griswold’s anthology, Female Poets of America, (1849) and we can’t help but feel that this anthology was Griswold’s attempt to woo women away from Poe with the promise of publication and fame. Important women poets were in a position to defend Poe, and, in the case of at least one (Oakes-Smith), to give evidence on how Poe really died. Was Griswold’s anthology a way to keep the women silent? Keep quiet about Poe and Uncle Rufus will make your poetry live forever.
When Poe gave Griswold power over his posthumous works, in the year of his death, 1849, Poe sealed his fate, and the circle closed in around him.
Was 19th century women’s poetry essentially killed by the same forces that killed Poe, and his reputation, and ushered in the rule of the Modernist Men’s club, Pound and Ford Madox Ford and radical, militaristic, fascist, gold-digging, Golden Dawn crazies who hated American democracy? The virtuous woman, the respected woman of Letters, was a horror to men like Pound, Eliot, and Ford, who used women in various ways. The proud, independent, 19th century poetess was an ideal that faded away in the gaudy light of modernism.
The trail is pretty clear: the chauvinist Emerson (who despised Poe) , the chauvinist Whitman (inspired by Emerson) Henry James (sneered both at literary women and Poe; Emerson was a family friend of the James family) and T.S. Eliot (had issues with Poe, Romanticism, and women; Eliot’s grandfather was Unitarian preacher friend of Emerson’s).
The sordid tale is even more bizarre, if that’s possible. Margaret Fuller, associate of both Emerson and Horace Greeley (Fuller and Greeley were roommates for years) alarmed the literary salon community by getting together a posse of belles to demand at Poe’s cottage door supposed love letters he had from a married woman, causing Poe to subsequently seek to arm himself against enraged men folk. Fuller’s gambit took place in 1847, two years before Poe’s death, and was just the sort of fearful incident that began to make Poe persona non grata in higher literary circles, and easier to push aside as potential allies were scared into silence. Unfortunately, in any literary network, the rival phenomenon plays an ugly role, as one reputation may eclipse others—one is only a good a writer as rivals permit one to be. This was especially true in Poe’s day, when Letters was judged by a more universal standard of ‘Western Tradition’ transparency and democratic popularity: there was one mode of excellence and a writer was original, or not, within that mode, even as comic or tragic, domestic or worldly subjects were chosen. There was no hiding behind experimental differences—there was no way to do that and call oneself an artist in the community’s eyes. This made literary rivalries especially cut-throat in Poe’s day, and Poe strove to make himself part of the mainstream of American Letters, which included women poets. Poe was not one of the producers/publishers of literature; he was merely the best of the writers. The action taken against him by Margaret Fuller must have really shaken Poe’s reputation. Two years later, Greeley and Griswold finished the job Fuller had begun, as their Tribune obituary hit the streets hours after Poe’s mysterious murder. 1845 saw Poe gain worldwide fame with “The Raven,” and the salon circuit was good to him as late as 1847, but as Poe’s enemies poured on the drunk/sexually immoral slanders, his salon-fame flower faded by 1848. Poe turned his attention to comosogony (“Eureka”) as his social star fell behind the hills. Cheryl Walker again:
Women participated in literary salons from the eighteenth century onward, and in several notable cases they supervised these social occasions themselves, holding salons for the great and near great in their homes. One of the most famous was the New York salon run by Anne Lynch (later Botta) which entertained writers such as Poe, Emerson, Frances Osgood, Rufus Griswold, Margaret Fuller, the Cary sisters, and Elizabeth Oakes-Smith. Edith Thomas’s career was launched at one of Botta’s evening entertainments. Such salons were often inbred and typically thrived on gossip, but they also played a significant role in establishing networks of literary inter-relationships. In her autobiography, Elizabeth Oakes-Smith gives a fascinating account of one evening at Emma Embury’s during which Frances Osgood sat adoringly at the feet of Poe and guests engaged in witty repartee. She remarks: “I remember Fannie Osgood and Phoebe Cary rather excelled at this small game, but Margaret Fuller looked like an owl at the perpetration of a pun, and I honored her for it.”
We’ll just print one poem from the anthology of 19th century American women poets, a brief lyric by Anne Lynch Botta, the salon hostess mentioned above. Do 19th century women poets who can write like this deserve to be forgotten? This poem contains many merits: artistic unity, descriptive power, force of imagery, and a symbolism which is not static, but unfolds as we read the poem:
LINES on an incident observed from the deck of a steamboat on the Mississippi river
Where the dark primeval forests
Rise against the western sky,
And “the Father of the Waters”
In his strength goes rushing by:There an eagle, flying earthward
From his eyrie far above,
With a serpent of the forest
In a fierce encounter strove.Now he gains and now he loses,
Now he frees his ruffled wings;
And now on high in air he rises;
But the serpent round him clings.In the death embrace entwining,
Now they sink and now they rise;
But the serpent wins the battle
With the monarch of the skies.Yet his wings still struggle upward,
Though that crushing weight they bear;
But more feebly those broad pinions
Strike the waves of upper air.Down to earth he sinks a captive
In that writhing, living chain;
Never o’er the blue horizon
Will his proud form sweep again.Never more in lightning flashes
Will his eye of terror gleam
Round the high and rocky eyrie,
Where his lonely eaglets scream.Oh majestic, royal eagle,
Soaring sunward from thy birth,
Thou hast lost the realm of heaven
For one moment on the earth!
Perhaps this is not a ‘great poem’ to a 21st century professor bent over it in a library, but imagine a 19th century salon, where poems live in a rich, down-to-earth, social atmosphere: one part gossip, one part entertainment, one part noble tradition. Would this poem not be perfect?


Rufus W Griswold (@RufusWGriswold) said,
December 5, 2011 at 1:32 am
Some questions.
“Elizabeth Oakes-Smith, a prominent poet in Cheryl Walker’s anthology, quoted by Herman Melville and married to a famous humorist, wrote now-suppressed magazine articles of how Poe was beaten and murdered.”
What do you mean by ‘now-suppressed magazine articles’? The following quote is easily found at http://www.eapoe.org/papers/misc1851/18760315.htm:
“That Edgar Poe may have subjected himself to the imputation of inebriety may perhaps be conceded, for a glass of wine would act fearfully upon his delicate organization; but that he was a debauched man in any way is utterly false. He was not a diseased man from his cups at the time of his death, nor did he died from delirium tremens, as has been asserted. The whole sad story will probably never be known, but he had corresponded with a woman whose name I withhold, and they having subsequently quarrelled, he refused to return her letters, nor did she receive them till Dr. Griswold gave them back after Poe’s death. This retention not only alarmed but exasperated the woman, and she sent an emissary of her own to force the delivery, and who, failing of success, beat the unhappy man in a most ruffianly manner. A brain fever supervened, and a few friends went with him to Baltimore, his native city, which he barely reached when he died.”—Elizabeth Oakes Smith, “Recollections of Poe,” Home Journal, March 15, 1876
Smith here is confusing different episodes in Poe’s life. The incident regarding the unreturned letters (the woman Smith refuses to name is that sour-gashed batterfanged womb-pipe Elizabeth F. Ellet) occurred in 1847, two years prior to Poe’s “murder” (as you yourself point out in your article). The beating administered to Poe was not ‘an emissary of her own’, but T.D. English. Poe had sought a pistol from English to defend himself against the threats of Ellet’s brother who was defending her “honor”, the two quarreled, and they fought. It seems unlikely that Poe developed ‘a brain fever’ as a result of his fight with English that would take two years to kill him.
Poe was not the victim of a murder; a very slow suicide, perhaps.
“Poe’s murder in 1849 coincided with Griswold’s anthology, Female Poets of America, (1849) and we can’t help but feel that this anthology was Griswold’s attempt to woo women away from Poe with the promise of publication and fame. Important women poets were in a position to defend Poe, and, in the case of at least one (Oakes-Smith), to give evidence on how Poe really died. Was Griswold’s anthology a way to keep the women silent? Keep quiet about Poe and Uncle Rufus will make your poetry live forever.”
This is ludicrous. Female Poets of America was published in mid-December of 1848, over nine months prior to Poe’s death, so you’ve embarrassed yourself there. Disregarding that fact, why would Griswold have felt the need to bribe the blue-stockings with publication and fame in order to conceal Poe’s “murder”?
“[Sarah] Helen Whitman, still another poet of note in the 19th century, was going to marry Poe until Greeley and Griswold conspired to put an end to it.”
Whitman called off her marriage to Poe after receiving an anonymous letter informing her that the wretched poet had failed to keep the promise of sobriety he had made to her. What evidence do you have to suggest that either Greeley or the honorable Reverend Griswold had anything to do with it?
thomasbrady said,
December 5, 2011 at 3:31 am
Rufus,
By “now-suppressed” I refer to how little attention has been given to Oakes-Smith’s testimony; the various theories: died after a drinking binge theory, the rabies theory, and the ‘cooping’ theory have all received a great deal of attention, with no real evidence. I assume you have read Walsh’s book, “Midnight Dreary,” where he not only destroys the silly ‘cooping theory’ but traces it to the dirty liar who originated it. Yet the ‘cooping theory’ has been repeated as the best theory for years.Snodgrass altering the note from ‘worse for wear’ to ‘bestial intoxication’ is alarming, yet none have ever suspected Snodgrass of anything but noble behavior. As far as Oakes-Smith ‘getting her facts wrong,’ how do we know precisely what she got wrong when we don’t know all the facts. She never says exactly when the beating occured, but if a beating did occur as she says it did, that’s information that is never discussed—and yet it shouldn’t be, because you are satisfied that she mixed up her dates? For someone who wasn’t there, you seem very sure of what you don’t (or couldn’t) fully know. Your sort of thinking is exactly why Poe’s death is permitted to be buried under lies.
Again, with the dates on Griswold’s anthology, as if this seals the matter. You deny Poe had hateful enemies, and Griswold was not one of them, and that Griswold was not a bitter rival of Poe’s in Letters, among literary women of the time, and that many of these women were potential defenders of Poe?
James Harrison’s 1901 biography quotes a letter from Greeley to Griswold, in which the former almost as much as orders the latter to prevent Poe’s marriage to Whitman. The Temperance slander was a well-known ploy of Poe’s enemies—because Whitman fell for it does not necessarily mean the slanderers were right.
Tom
Rufus W Griswold (@RufusWGriswold) said,
December 6, 2011 at 3:41 am
By “now-suppressed” I refer to how little attention has been given to Oakes-Smith’s testimony; the various theories: died after a drinking binge theory, the rabies theory, and the ‘cooping’ theory have all received a great deal of attention, with no real evidence.
Oh, I thought you were implying that there was some sort of modern conspiracy to cover up Poe’s “murder”. Fair enough. And I agree that there is no conclusive evidence to explain the exact circumstances of Poe’s death but it is a mystery that we are not going to solve here.
I assume you have read Walsh’s book, “Midnight Dreary,” where he not only destroys the silly ‘cooping theory’ but traces it to the dirty liar who originated it.
I have read Walsh’s book. He does an excellent job debunking wild theories about Poe’s death but then an equally feeble job of presenting his own theory. “Midnight Dreary” is as much fiction as Walsh’s other Poe-related effort, “Plumes in the Dust”.
As far as Oakes-Smith ‘getting her facts wrong,’ how do we know precisely what she got wrong when we don’t know all the facts. She never says exactly when the beating occured, but if a beating did occur as she says it did, that’s information that is never discussed—and yet it shouldn’t be, because you are satisfied that she mixed up her dates?
But we do know enough to know that she is confusing items in Poe’s biography, as the excerpt from my previous comment makes clear: She says the beating occurred during the same episode in which Poe was quarrelling with the anonymous woman (Ellet) regarding her letters, and that occurred in 1847. Poe died in 1849. You don’t need a time machine to be certain of this, you just a calendar.
Yes, a beating occurred. It was delivered by Thomas Dunn English. What we know for certain is that the beating to which Oakes-Smith is referring is the one that was the result of the Poe-Ellet scandal. Poe may have been beaten again, closer to the time of his death, but we cannot know that.
Again, with the dates on Griswold’s anthology, as if this seals the matter.
Why so sensitive about my reliance on facts. The dates are critical! Speculation regarding the unknowns is fine, but these theories MUST mesh with the known facts if they are to be read as anything but fiction…and the fact that Griswold compiled his anthology way to early in time to have been able to use it to silence poetesses about Poe’s death because it would not happen for another nine months!
You deny Poe had hateful enemies, and Griswold was not one of them, and that Griswold was not a bitter rival of Poe’s in Letters, among literary women of the time, and that many of these women were potential defenders of Poe?
I deny none of these things. Poe had hateful enemies (including but not limited to Lewis Gaylord Clark, Thomas Dunn English, Elizabeth Ellet, Margaret Fuller), and of course the honorable Reverend Dr. Rufus Griswold was one of them, and not only in private correspondence but in public notices as well. Certainly many of the female poets in their circle would have been inclined (and some did) to defend Poe’s reputation.
What I deny is that The Female Poets of America “was Griswold’s attempt to woo women away from Poe with the promise of publication and fame” in an attempt to keep the blue-stockings silent about Poe’s “murder”.
James Harrison’s 1901 biography quotes a letter from Greeley to Griswold, in which the former almost as much as orders the latter to prevent Poe’s marriage to Whitman.
I assume you mean this letter, written from Greeley to Griswold on January 21st, 1849:
“Do you know Sarah Helen Whitman? Of course you have heard it rumored that she is to marry Poe. Well, she has seemed to me a good girl, and— you know what Poe is. Now I know a widow of doubtful age will marry almost any sort of a white man, but this seems to me a terrible conjunction. Has Mrs. Whitman no friend within your knowledge that can faithfully explain Poe to her? I never attempted this sort of thing but once, and the net product was two enemies and a hastening of the marriage; but I do think she must be deceived. Mrs. Osgood must know her.”
This very letter exonerates Griswold simply based upon, yes, again, the date that it was written. The engagement of Poe and Whitman was called off on December 23rd, 1848; Greeley was opining to Griswold on the subject on January 21st of the following year. The letter also suggests that Francis Osgood would likely have been Greeley’s instrument in informing Whitman of Poe’s true dissipated nature, not Griswold.
Also, at no point does Greeley even suggest that Griswold himself go to Whitman with information regarding Poe’s true nature.
For someone who wasn’t there, you seem very sure of what you don’t (or couldn’t) fully know.
Was Elizabeth Oakes-Smith present at the “murderous” beating of Poe? On what evidence does she base her theory?
I have no idea how Poe really died, but I am confident that a study of the facts is more likely to yield the truth than wild speculation.
And I DO know about Rufus Wilmot Griswold.
I can tell you for certain that in November & December of 1848 Rufus Griswold was NOT thinking about Edgar Allan Poe. He was the object of much female attention as a result of his impending anthology; one of his best friends was suffering a nervous breakdown and soon to be committed to an insane asylum; also he began to suffer from epileptic fits and discovered opium (“I am in a terrible condition, both physically and mentally. I do not know what the end will be…I am exhausted—betwixt life and death—and heaven and hell”).
Though an enemy of Poe, the monomania regarding the wretched poet that is attributed to Griswold is utterly unfounded; Poe was neither Griswold’s arch-nemesis nor his idol, but a brief and unfortunate series of episodes in Griswold’s life. The revised history of their relationship would suggest that Gris merely existed as a vindictive character in Poe’s biography, but his life beyond Poe was rich and full (I highly recommend studying his bio, it is fascinating!)
Your sort of thinking is exactly why Poe’s death is permitted to be buried under lies.
That seems a bit melodramatic.
Rufus W Griswold (@RufusWGriswold) said,
December 6, 2011 at 3:47 am
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“By “now-suppressed” I refer to how little attention has been given to Oakes-Smith’s testimony; the various theories: died after a drinking binge theory, the rabies theory, and the ‘cooping’ theory have all received a great deal of attention, with no real evidence.”
Oh, I thought you were implying that there was some sort of modern conspiracy to cover up Poe’s “murder”. Fair enough. And I agree that there is no conclusive evidence to explain the exact circumstances of Poe’s death but it is a mystery that we are not going to solve here.
“I assume you have read Walsh’s book, “Midnight Dreary,” where he not only destroys the silly ‘cooping theory’ but traces it to the dirty liar who originated it.”
I have read Walsh’s book. He does an excellent job debunking wild theories about Poe’s death but then an equally feeble job of presenting his own theory. “Midnight Dreary” is as much fiction as Walsh’s other Poe-related effort, “Plumes in the Dust”.
“As far as Oakes-Smith ‘getting her facts wrong,’ how do we know precisely what she got wrong when we don’t know all the facts. She never says exactly when the beating occured, but if a beating did occur as she says it did, that’s information that is never discussed—and yet it shouldn’t be, because you are satisfied that she mixed up her dates?”
But we do know enough to know that she is confusing items in Poe’s biography, as the excerpt from my previous comment makes clear: She says the beating occurred during the same episode in which Poe was quarrelling with the anonymous woman (Ellet) regarding her letters, and that occurred in 1847. Poe died in 1849. You don’t need a time machine to be certain of this, you just a calendar.
Yes, a beating occurred. It was delivered by Thomas Dunn English. What we know for certain is that the beating to which Oakes-Smith is referring is the one that was the result of the Poe-Ellet scandal. Poe may have been beaten again, closer to the time of his death, but we cannot know that.
“Again, with the dates on Griswold’s anthology, as if this seals the matter.”
Why so sensitive about my reliance on facts. The dates are critical! Speculation regarding the unknowns is fine, but these theories MUST mesh with the known facts if they are to be read as anything but fiction…and the fact that Griswold compiled his anthology way to early in time to have been able to use it to silence poetesses about Poe’s death because it would not happen for another nine months!
“You deny Poe had hateful enemies, and Griswold was not one of them, and that Griswold was not a bitter rival of Poe’s in Letters, among literary women of the time, and that many of these women were potential defenders of Poe?”
I deny none of these things. Poe had hateful enemies (including but not limited to Lewis Gaylord Clark, Thomas Dunn English, Elizabeth Ellet, Margaret Fuller), and of course the honorable Reverend Dr. Rufus Griswold was one of them, and not only in private correspondence but in public notices as well. Certainly many of the female poets in their circle would have been inclined (and some did) to defend Poe’s reputation.
What I deny is that The Female Poets of America “was Griswold’s attempt to woo women away from Poe with the promise of publication and fame” in an attempt to keep the blue-stockings silent about Poe’s “murder”.
“James Harrison’s 1901 biography quotes a letter from Greeley to Griswold, in which the former almost as much as orders the latter to prevent Poe’s marriage to Whitman.”
I assume you mean this letter, written from Greeley to Griswold on January 21st, 1849:
“Do you know Sarah Helen Whitman? Of course you have heard it rumored that she is to marry Poe. Well, she has seemed to me a good girl, and— you know what Poe is. Now I know a widow of doubtful age will marry almost any sort of a white man, but this seems to me a terrible conjunction. Has Mrs. Whitman no friend within your knowledge that can faithfully explain Poe to her? I never attempted this sort of thing but once, and the net product was two enemies and a hastening of the marriage; but I do think she must be deceived. Mrs. Osgood must know her.”
This very letter exonerates Griswold simply based upon, yes, again, the date that it was written. The engagement of Poe and Whitman was called off on December 23rd, 1848; Greeley was opining to Griswold on the subject on January 21st of the following year. The letter also suggests that Francis Osgood would likely have been Greeley’s instrument in informing Whitman of Poe’s true dissipated nature, not Griswold.
Also, at no point does Greeley even suggest that Griswold himself go to Whitman with information regarding Poe’s true nature.
“For someone who wasn’t there, you seem very sure of what you don’t (or couldn’t) fully know.”
Was Elizabeth Oakes-Smith present at the “murderous” beating of Poe? On what evidence does she base her theory?
I have no idea how Poe really died, but I am confident that a study of the facts is more likely to yield the truth than wild speculation.
And I DO know about Rufus Wilmot Griswold.
I can tell you for certain that in November & December of 1848 Rufus Griswold was NOT thinking about Edgar Allan Poe. He was the object of much female attention as a result of his impending anthology; one of his best friends was suffering a nervous breakdown and soon to be committed to an insane asylum; also he began to suffer from epileptic fits and discovered opium (“I am in a terrible condition, both physically and mentally. I do not know what the end will be…I am exhausted—betwixt life and death—and heaven and hell”).
Though an enemy of Poe, the monomania regarding the wretched poet that is attributed to Griswold is utterly unfounded; Poe was neither Griswold’s arch-nemesis nor his idol, but a brief and unfortunate series of episodes in Griswold’s life. The revised history of their relationship would suggest that Gris merely existed as a vindictive character in Poe’s biography, but his life beyond Poe was rich and full (I highly recommend studying his bio, it is fascinating!)
‘Your sort of thinking is exactly why Poe’s death is permitted to be buried under lies.
That seems a bit melodramatic.”
Undine said,
December 6, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Interesting little debate going on here. The Reverend has basically taken the words out of my mouth (a strange twist of fate, indeed,) so I can only comment on a couple of minor points. (By the way, the murky scandal involving Poe and Elizabeth Ellet took place early in 1846, not 1847.)
“The names of those 19th century women poets are forgotten and no renaissance of any note has been attempted in America in the name of the female poet.”
Most male writers of the period have been forgotten, as well. Reading the names of the once-acclaimed authors that Poe reviewed and Griswold anthologized reminds one of just how fleeting fame can be. And, let’s face it, most of them don’t deserve to be remembered. A case can be made that good taste, not sexism, is responsible for the fact that these women poets are unread today.
“Poe, more than any other figure in the 19th century, reviewed and supported women poets, was worshiped by them at the literary salons.”
Poe was an influential critic, and he had his very brief moment of social prominence in 1845, but it’s probable that anthologists like Griswold and editors like George R. Graham did more to promote the female writers of the time. (Poe’s evaluations of the “poetesses” always had a decided sting in their tail, anyway.)
“Rufus Griswold, who almost single-handedly mauled Poe’s reputation…”
Although Griswold is today Poe’s most famous enemy, and the “memoir” certainly cemented the most notorious lies about him, but Griswold was hardly alone in maligning Poe. The ironic thing is that other figures, such as Thomas Dunn English, Lewis Gaylord Clark, Elizabeth Ellet, and Charles F. Briggs, played a much bigger role in slandering Poe, both before and after his death. Griswold merely repeated stories that people such as these had already put into circulation. As the Rev. himself hinted above, Griswold was in reality a surprisingly minor figure in Poe’s life, and vice-versa.
“Margaret Fuller, associate of both Emerson and Horace Greeley (Fuller and Greeley were roommates for years) alarmed the literary salon community by getting together a posse of belles to demand at Poe’s cottage door supposed love letters he had from a married woman, causing Poe to subsequently seek to arm himself against enraged men folk.”
To make a very long story as short as possible, it was Mrs. Ellet, not Fuller, who was behind the whole scandal–a scandal where the true details are still uncertain. Practically all we know of the story comes from Sarah Helen Whitman, and she is hardly an infallible source. She herself was professedly uncertain if Fuller was involved at all, and what we know of Fuller and her very distant relationship with Poe makes it unlikely that she was.
Finally, I have to agree that, although the exact circumstances of Poe’s end will forever be a mystery, there is no credible evidence that he met his death as a result of foul play. It’s usually ignored that he suffered from poor health for some years before his death, and it seems logical that his chronic illnesses, possibly coupled with his battles with alcohol and/or exposure to harsh weather, led to his demise. Poe himself dropped many hints indicating that he did not believe he would live a long life. I suspect the truth about his death is much less dramatic than many like to imagine. (Where Poe is concerned, the truth is nearly always much less colorful than the legend.)
I do thank you for recognizing that Poe has been the victim of many damaging legends. Few people, even today, appreciate that fact. The Rev. here and I are just trying to keep new legends from being promoted.
Rufus W Griswold (@RufusWGriswold) said,
December 6, 2011 at 9:04 pm
“By the way, the murky scandal involving Poe and Elizabeth Ellet took place early in 1846, not 1847.”
So it did. I stand in error. But 1846 is better for my case than 1847, so I can live with that.
thomasbrady said,
December 6, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Poe’s death has murder written all over it—every single aspect of his demise cries foul play. The surrounding events, the behavior of the individuals involved, the slanders, the whole life…I hear a thousand souls howling, “Murder!”
Undine’s suggestion that Poe might have died from “exposure to harsh weather” is so undramatic (unless it was a great storm that blew Poe off a tower) that we might as well curl up in a little ball and suck our thumb and then drink some milk and then go to bed…and what were we talking about again?
By the way, Poe & Fuller were very connected. They were not intimates, but they were very aware of each other. Emerson’s frenzied hatred of Poe and Fuller’s very strong connection to Emerson and Greeley must call attention to her. Fuller led the posse of belles to Poe’s door.
“Most male writers of the period have been forgotten.” Good point. Emerson and Whitman hog the whole show. A shame.
Those 19th century Amercian women do deserve to be read. I don’t agree they should be forgotten.
I’d like to read that strange novel by English, one day. I don’t think Oakes-Smith was thinking of English when she said Poe was beaten.
Griswold’s anthology was an ongoing project. The exact dates are not important.
Greeley’s Tribune was very influential.
Undine said,
December 6, 2011 at 11:12 pm
Just to clarify a couple of things: I didn’t suggest that Poe died because of the weather. It’s well-established that he had had bouts of increasingly poor health in his last years, and I think it’s most likely that this chronic illness, coupled with his drinking problem, finally killed him. It’s also established that Baltimore was going through a period of particularly harsh weather at the time he was there, which could well have been a contributing factor to his demise. (Some claimed to have seen a death certificate for Poe that listed the cause of his death as exhaustion and exposure, but that, of course, cannot be proven.)
Elizabeth Oakes Smith quoted Emerson as speaking somewhat disparagingly of Poe’s poetry, but that hardly proves he had a “frenzied hatred” for him. Also, as I said, It was Elizabeth Ellet, not Margaret Fuller, who was behind the “letters scandal.” We have only Sarah Helen Whitman’s word, given 30 years later, that Fuller was involved at all, and she admitted she was uncertain of that fact. There is nothing to indicate Fuller was hostile to Poe–in fact, what little we have of her comments regarding him, such as her December ’49 letter to Elizabeth Barrett, are distinctly sympathetic.
thomasbrady said,
December 7, 2011 at 3:34 pm
It was a very small world back then—as it sometimes seems today.
Helen Whitman lived at home with her mother. Whitman happened to know Fuller and Greeley. That may have been a big problem for Poe.
It is not “well-established” that Poe was ill at the end of his life. The guy worked like a dog, but he wasn’t ill anymore than the next person, and he could get hyperbolic in his letters—which are not reliable, because Poe was not an ordinary man, an ordinary letter-writer, etc. For goodness sake, he gave Muddy a fake name to look for in a missive at the end of his life. One has to ‘throw out the usual rules’ when trying to figure Poe out. Poe is one of a handful of the greatest geniuses who ever lived.
Emerson’s silence on Poe speaks volumes. Poe ridiculed Emerson’s circle and Emerson said not one word re: Poe until well after Poe’s death, when E. was quoted calling Poe the “jingle man” by Dean Howells in a conversation. You have to think outside the box a little to get the gist of what was going on. Poe was a patriot and didn’t trust the abolitionists’ motives—he believed, like many, they had impure motives and they were tied to England’s attempt to subvert the USA. If you don’t understand this political aspect, you may just decide Poe died because he didn’t wear his galoshes one day. Poe was mixed up in the highest possible perturbations…remember, Poe knew the future Sec. of the Navy (Kennedy) was at West Point, was acquainted with Winfield Scott, etc Not to mention all the literary quarrels, etc
Oakes-Smith and these other ladies were not just poets, either. The silencing of their literary efforts is shameful. (and let’s call it what it is—silencing.) The fact that American women’s poetry today is Marianne Moore (ugh) and Elizabeth Bishop (skilled but very minor) and these 19th century women NEVER get a mention is disgusting.
Tom
Rufus W Griswold (@RufusWGriswold) said,
December 7, 2011 at 3:12 am
“Greeley’s Tribune was very influential.”
I don’t recall the Tribune making a public appeal to warn Whitman of Poe.
“I don’t think Oakes-Smith was thinking of English when she said Poe was beaten.”
Is there some kind of evidence to support that opinion? Other articles by Oakes-Smith on the subject that clarifies her meaning?
“Griswold’s anthology was an ongoing project.
It ceased to be ongoing as of December 13th, 1848 so it would have been impossible for Griswold to have used it as leverage against female poets who could shed light on Poe’s death in October of the following year.
” The exact dates are not important.”
Sure, why be constrained by facts and logic in consideration of this matter? Let your fevered imagination feed on unreliable scraps of gossip and heresay and fill the unknown portions of Poe’s biography with romantic notions of phantom assailants and paritally-cooked murder conspiracies…Just realize that it has ceased to be scholarship and is historical fantasy.
thomasbrady said,
December 7, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Griswold was the most infuential anthologist of that time. A female poet looking to be remembered could not have but looked on Griswold as extremely helpful. Before the anthology was published, during its publication, after its publication—when, exactly, are you saying, Griswold’s importance to a female poet simply ended? I’m really confused by what you are trying to say. “Hey, I’m putting together this anthology…might you have a poem for me?” The anthology is published and is extremely successful. Griswold is now even more important. The future is open and the female poets are alive to Griswold’s success. Why are you saying the exact date of the publication changes everything? It doesn’t. All through the process and beyond it is important.
Rufus W Griswold (@RufusWGriswold) said,
December 7, 2011 at 11:05 pm
“When, exactly, are you saying, Griswold’s importance to a female poet simply ended? I’m really confused by what you are trying to say. “Hey, I’m putting together this anthology…might you have a poem for me?” The anthology is published and is extremely successful. Griswold is now even more important. The future is open and the female poets are alive to Griswold’s success. Why are you saying the exact date of the publication changes everything?”
Previoiusly you opined:
“Poe’s murder in 1849 coincided with Griswold’s anthology, Female Poets of America, (1849) and we can’t help but feel that this anthology was Griswold’s attempt to woo women away from Poe with the promise of publication and fame. Important women poets were in a position to defend Poe, and, in the case of at least one (Oakes-Smith), to give evidence on how Poe really died. Was Griswold’s anthology a way to keep the women silent? Keep quiet about Poe and Uncle Rufus will make your poetry live forever .”
It is certain that Griswold’s reputation as literary tastemaker and eminent anthologist would give him a certain amount of influence; I am not asserting otherwise. My point regarding the chronology is that, unless you believe that Griswold was somehow involved in a conspiracy to murder Poe, which I don’t believe you do, why would he (or how could he) try to use it to keep “important women poets…in a position…to give evidence on how Poe really died” silent. How could he have said to Oakes-Smith “Keep quiet about Poe and Uncle Rufus will make your poetry live forever” if Poe had yet to be murdered? I don’t see why this is so difficult to understand.
Now, if you are saying that Griswold, after Poe’s death, exerted his influence to bury the truth about Poe’s murder, I am curious to know what Griswold’s motive would be…unless, that is, you do believe that Griswold was somehow involved in a Poe “murder”. The only reason I can think of, in the absence of Griswold’s own involvement in Poe’s death, is that it would be less damaging to Poe’s reputation to say that he was murdered than many of the other theories bandied about.
thomasbrady said,
December 8, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Uh…yea…Griswold was a conspirator in Poe’s demise…how can you think otherwise?
Motive? Envy and Hatred. It’s sort of ruled mankind since the beginning.
Poe once said we see a star by its ray, not the star itself. Don’t look at the star, look at the rays.
Where are the newspaper reports in October, 1849: POET FOUND ILL AND DELIRIOUS IN BALTIMORE: FAMOUS AUTHOR EDGAR POE WAS DISCOVERED SEMI-CONSCIOUS NEAR HOME OF POE’S FRIEND, BALTIMORE SUN REPORTER, MR. SNODGRASS. POLICE TAKE POET TO HOSPITAL, VOW TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF INCIDENT
Where are these newspaper reports? Why do we get ‘the story’ in The New York Tribune, the most important newspaper in the land, by ‘Ludwig’ reciting Poe’s lack of friends and his drinking issues? The carting off to that crappy hospital, with iron bars on the windows, with only N.Poe looking after him, his ENEMY, N. Poe, then the hurried burial without an autopsy, NO REPORTS of ANY kind of the suspicious nature of Poe’s death. Where are the news stories that express dismay at how the poet died? That reported the poet’s difficulty BEFORE he died. That expressed concern, outrage, horror? Where are they? There are none. What is the explanation for this? Fear, intimidation, and deliberate cover-up is how one explains it. No honest soul would deny this. How does the absence of reports in the press not point to a conspiracy in Poe’s death?
It was a conspiracy. And Ludwig, excuse me, Rufus, was in the middle of it.
The suspicious behavior of Snodgrass is excused by saying, ‘Well he was a Temperance guy, so he deliberately made it look like Poe had died of drink (explicitly contradicted by the physician—though he, too, is suspicious in his behavior, as well) but if that was the case, why was this ‘death by drinking’ covered up—no autopsy, etc. If Poe had died of drink, it would have been easy for evidence of this kind to be publicized, but the physician wouldn’t sign on to it. Conspiracy to cover up a crime or participate in a crime of murder would surely call into question the ‘purer motives’ of a Temperance reformer—and his actions. Why weren’t any of Poe’s friends contacted in the days between when Poe was found and his death? Why wasn’t an autopsy drawn up? Why was the burial so hasty and attended only by Snodgrass, N.Poe (and a couple of non-entities)?
Then Greeley and Griswold (keeping in mind that letter) are ready with their story, hours after Poe’s death. No report of the murder. Only an obituary of libels.
Tom
Rufus W Griswold (@RufusWGriswold) said,
December 7, 2011 at 11:57 pm
“Undine’s suggestion that Poe might have died from “exposure to harsh weather” is so undramatic (unless it was a great storm that blew Poe off a tower) that we might as well curl up in a little ball and suck our thumb and then drink some milk and then go to bed…and what were we talking about again?”
Not that “harsh weather” can be proved as a contributor of Poe’s demise, but what does the fact that it would have been “so undramatic” prove? The fact that Poe being murdered would have been more dramatic or romantic is utterly irrelevant and cannot be construed as evidence in any way!
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Rufus W Griswold (@RufusWGriswold) said,
December 9, 2011 at 2:50 am
“Uh…yea…Griswold was a conspirator in Poe’s demise…how can you think otherwise?”
The fact that you still have presented absolutely zero real evidence to support the claim that Griswold had anything to do with a conspiracy to murder Poe is how I can think otherwise.
“Motive? Envy and Hatred. It’s sort of ruled mankind since the beginning.”
I had inquired what you thought Griswold’s motive would be for covering up Poe’s “murder” if he HAD NOT BEEN a conspirator in Poe’s murder, but, as you state above, you DO believe that.
Poe and Griswold were certainly not friends…hatred might be a bit strong of a word, but the two definitely disliked each other very strongly. Remember, they only interacted, and not even on a regular basis, for the last eight years of Poe’s life. Their lives were not interwoven throughout as many seem to think, and nor were they mortal enemies. It could be argued that Poe had worse enemies while he lived than Griswold, whose biggest offense against Poe did not occur until after his death.
While Griswold may have envied Poe his talent and his genius, that is all Poe had to covet. Griswold was far more successful professionally than Poe would ever be while he lived.
Also, many people envied Poe his genius and hated him for a variety of reasons…were they ALL in on this conspiracy?
“Where are the newspaper reports in October, 1849: POET FOUND ILL AND DELIRIOUS IN BALTIMORE: FAMOUS AUTHOR EDGAR POE WAS DISCOVERED SEMI-CONSCIOUS NEAR HOME OF POE’S FRIEND, BALTIMORE SUN REPORTER, MR. SNODGRASS. POLICE TAKE POET TO HOSPITAL, VOW TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF INCIDENT
NO REPORTS of ANY kind of the suspicious nature of Poe’s death. Where are the news stories that express dismay at how the poet died? That reported the poet’s difficulty BEFORE he died. That expressed concern, outrage, horror? Where are they? There are none. What is the explanation for this? Fear, intimidation, and deliberate cover-up is how one explains it. No honest soul would deny this.”
I think you may be overestimating Poe’s importance little bit…he was a starving and dissipated if incredibly talented wordsmith when he lived, not the revered poet he has become today.
“Where are these newspaper reports? Why do we get ‘the story’ in The New York Tribune, the most important newspaper in the land, by ‘Ludwig’ reciting Poe’s lack of friends and his drinking issues? How does the absence of reports in the press not point to a conspiracy in Poe’s death?”
Several notices were printed regarding Poe’s death, one the 8th, and two more (in addition to Ludwig’s) on the 9th of October, 1849, when Griswold’s obit was printed. I print them below for your perusal:
The Sun (Baltimore), Monday, October 8, 1849, p. 2, col. 1: DEATH OF EDGAR A. POE. — We regret to learn that Edgar A. Poe, Esq., the distinguished American poet, scholar and critic, died in this city yesterday morning, after an illness of four or five days. — This announcement, coming so sudden and unexpected, will cause poignant regret among all who admire genius, and have sympathy for the frailties too often attending it. Mr. Poe, we believe, was a ¬native of this State, though reared by a foster-father at Richmond, Va., where he lately spent some time on a visit. He was in the 38th year of his age.
Baltimore Clipper, October 9, 1849, p. 2, col. 7: Died: —
On the 8th instant of congestion of the brain, Edgar A. Poe, Esq. aged 38 years. Mr. Poe was well known as a writer of great ability.
New York Journal of Commerce, October 9, 1849, Editorial Columns: Edgar A. Poe — Our readers will observe, under our telegraphic head, the announcement of the death of this well known author. For some years past he has been more or less ill, and the announcement of his death is not unexpected, though none the less melancholy on that account.
Few men were his equals. He stands in a position among our poets and prose writers which has made him the envy of many and the admiration of all. His life has been an eventful and stormy one, and if any one shall be found to write its history, we venture to say that its simple truths will be of more thrilling interest than most romances.
During the early part of his life he wandered around the world, wasting the energies of a noble mind. Subsequently he returned to his native country, but his heart seemed to have become embittered by the experiences of life, and his hand to be against every man. Hence he was better known as a severe critic than otherwise; yet Mr. Poe had a warm and noble heart, as those who best knew him can testify. He had been sadly disappointed in his early years. Brilliant prospects had been dashed away from before him, and he wandered over the world in search of a substitute for them. During the latter part of his life it has seemed as if his really high heart had been weighed down under a heavy load, and his own words best express the emotions of his soul:
“Alas, alas for me,
Ambition — all is o’er!
No more, no more, no more,
(Such language hath the solemn sea
To the sands upon the shore,)
Shall bloom the thunder blasted tree.
The stricken eagle soar.”
It will not be denied, even by his enemies, that Mr. Poe was a man of great ability, — and all other recollections of him will be lost now, and buried with him in the grave. We hope he has found rest, for he needed it.
The New York Herald, dispatch from Baltimore correspondent (dated October 8, printed October 9, 1849): Our city was yesterday shocked with the announcement of the death of Edgar A. Poe, Esq., who arrived in this city about a week since, after a successful tour ¬[page 850:] through Virginia, where he delivered a series of able lectures., On last Wednesday, election day, he was found near the Fourth ward polls laboring under an attack of mania à potu, and in a most shocking condition. Being recognized by some of our citizens, he was placed in a carriage and conveyed to the Washington Hospital, where every attention has been bestowed on him. He lingered, however, until yesterday morning, when death put a period to his existence. He was a most eccentric genius, with many friends and many foes, but all, I feel satisfied, will view with regret the sad fate of the poet and critic. His last days were spent in the same institution where Dr. Lopland [John Lofland] the Milford Bard, spent so many of his latter years, laboring under the effects of the same sad disease. [FROM THE POE LOG: Whoever the Herald’s correspondent may have been, he provided authentic information not found in the other obituaries: the day and place Poe was discovered, the name of the hospital where he was taken, and the cause of his death.]
“Why weren’t any of Poe’s friends contacted in the days between when Poe was found and his death? Why wasn’t an autopsy drawn up? Why was the burial so hasty and attended only by Snodgrass, N.Poe (and a couple of non-entities)?”
I do not know the answers to these questions, but, again, their existence proves nothing. And, an absence of answers does not necessarily point to a murder conspiracy.
“Greeley and Griswold (keeping in mind that letter) are ready with their story, hours after Poe’s death. No report of the murder. Only an obituary of libels.”
As noted, there were a few notices about Poe’s death printed on the 8th and 9th of October. Griswold’s notice while full of misinformation and libels regarding the dead poet does not say one way or another how Poe died. Of Poe’s actual death Griswold ONLY says “We have not learned of the circumstance of his death. It was sudden, and from the fact that it occurred in Baltimore, it is to be presumed that he was on his return to New-York.” Griswold neither says that Poe was murdered nor that he died of exposure, rabies, or any of the other theories that have been tossed off over the years…simply that he died.
I will concede that, in as much as the true nature of Poe’s demise remains unclear, a murder conspiracy is possible, but, based on the lack of evidence provided, the contempt for facts and dates that you seem to have, and your obvious desire to romanticize the death of Poe (whose life hardly needs further romanticizing), unconvincing.
thomasbrady said,
December 9, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Griswold,
You begin by writing,
“zero evidence to support the claim that Griswold had anything to do with a conspiracy to murder Poe…”
and then conclude,
“I will concede that, in as much as the true nature of Poe’s demise remains unclear, a murder conspiracy is possible…”
Between these two statements lies the nub of the matter. In Poe’s case, you take the facts, then note how persons respond in public to those facts. That’s step one. Step two: If you trust those persons, you assume those persons know something we, in the present, don’t, since when a 40 year old man collapses in a public place and then dies a few days later, the normal response is: how did this 40 year old man die? Step three: You choose not to trust those persons and conclude ‘something’s rotten in Denmark’ because those persons don’t behave in the expected manner. Leaving the matter at step two is to admit ignorance, and this admitted ignorance is precisely why step two observers will never move on to step three, and will always trust the persons who were there at the time, and they will also use this ignorance to beat the step three observers with. The Step Two observers will treat every action as discrete and unconnected (Griswold/Greeley’s obituary will be treated as an isolated newspaper article, etc etc) because the fact of ignorance guides them. No one tried to get to the bottom of Poe’s death in 1849 and so we, 150 years later, would be foolish to suspect foul play since there must be a perfectly good reason why no one seemed to suspect foul play in 1849.
If we list every fact we know about Poe’s death, one would have to conclude a very high likelihood of foul play. But Step Two observers put this likelihood to rest, since they don’t know exactly how the foul play took place. Ignorance at the beginning of the “Investigation” simply prevails until the end of the “investigation.”
I perfectly understand how Step Two Observers think.
But the Step Three Observers (I am one) go on the hunch that… wait a minute…something’s wrong here…there’s too much consistent Poe abuse…let’s take a closer look at everything…
Those newspaper accounts support what I said. None even hint at the facts of his death or treat it as the least unusual: “for some years past more or less ill…” “the frailties…” and that Herald story from the Baltimore correspondent is the worst: “mania a potu” is a nice way of saying he ‘died insanely from drinking too much’ (though the physician, Dr. Moran, said drinking was not the cause, no trace of alcohol was found) and its mention of John Lofland is pure libel, since the ‘Milford Bard’ was a known opium addict/alcoholic. Wonder who that “Baltimore correspondent” was? Surely he knew Snodgrass, who worked for the Sun. Remember, Poe was not supposed to be in Baltimore…it was bizarre that he was even found there..and it happened he was ‘found’ in walking distance from Snodgrass’s home, his ‘friend’ who subsequently took care of things from start to finish, and whose behavior has never been called into question. I’ve studied the correspondence between Poe and Snodgrass. Poe told Snodgrass a lot of personal opinions, including that he (Poe) didn’t trust his cousin, N. Poe. He was very forthcoming to Snodgrass, thinking him a pal. Then the correspondence abruptly ends. My theory is that Snodgrass led Poe on, making Poe think he was his intimate ally, and got as much as information as he could, because after their period of correspondence, Snodgrass does not act like a friend, at all.
Tom
juliefrenchie said,
August 15, 2012 at 9:52 pm
I’m late to the party, of course, but can anyone tell me why there wasn’t an autopsy done on Poe? Or is it an unknown, an x factor up there with the lost death certificate? I was reading yesterday about a 17 year old girl named Rosetta Jackson, who died in Chicago in 1874. Although a doctor had pronounced her death as having resulted from typhoid fever, a policeman came by the next day to “investigate the sudden passing” and made the decision to conduct an enquiry, which included an autopsy.
Given even a slight celebrity status, which I would argue Poe had, coupled with the unusual situation surrounding his death, wouldn’t someone have seen the usefulness of an autopsy? I honestly don’t believe for a minute it was a conspiracy, because even if we do grant Poe that slight celebrity, I don’t think he was much of a threat to any other writer during his lifetime. But I do wonder why authorities were so quick to attribute a cause of death and ship him out.
thomasbrady said,
August 16, 2012 at 3:06 pm
julie, you are correct to ask for an autopsy, and there was none, and no curiosity found in newspaper reports regarding one—Poe’s death was a cover-up wrapped up in a cover-up. For a lot of people, two cover-ups equal no cover-up, but their math is wrong. You write, “I honestly don’t believe for a minute it was a conspiracy” and the reason you give is, “I don’t think he was much of a threat to any other writer…” even as you ponder the hurried burial and the lack of an autopsy for a famous writer. But Poe was a huge threat to other writers: 1) as a critic he destroyed and damaged reputations of dignified, flesh-and-blood persons with his reviews and notices, 2) he expressed disdain for literary cliques and he named names. 3) he was from the south and lived in the north and was a genius, an icon, and a magazinist, with many influential years in front of him—fanatics and desperate characters of all types had reason to fear him, simply because he was a genius and a uniting force; he was neither pro-slavery nor an abolitionist, but a Lincoln-like figure, or a Zachary Taylor-like compromise figure who could have brokered a peaceful settlement re: the War Between the States. Poe knew Winfield Scott (another compromise figure) and the future sec. of the navy, Poe was not just a scribe—he did have some ‘connections.’ Poe was ‘good people.’ His true friends—those who defended him after his death, people like Willis and Helen Whitman—were ‘good people.’ Bad people, the murderers, intimidate and silence opposition—that’s part of what they do. The editors of the Sun and the Tribune decided to cover up the crime. The good people, who were friends of Poe, were frightened into silence. That was part of the crime: not only kill Poe but show the world it could be done with impunity. That’s why it’s a particularly nasty crime and it cries out for answers.
By the way, both Poe and Virginia’s hair samples were tested and they did find high amounts of arsenic. Zachary Taylor, the compromise president, died suddenly in 1850 (Poe was killed in 1849) and historians suspected foul play and Taylor’s body was exhumed and tested for poisoning—again, they did find arsenic, but inconclusive amounts to warrant poisoning. But they couldn’t rule it out, either. It seems arsenic was in the water back then, or something. The fact that there was enough suspicion to dig up a U.S. president’s body should give us pause.
Anyway, Julie, the main point: was Poe a “threat to other writers?” The answer is absolutely yes. He had already, as a critic, at the time of death, murdered the reputations of other writers—including a writer (Channing the younger) mentored by Ralph Emerson—a confirmed anglophile, Poe-hater, and friend of Greeley’s.
Tom
D. Parker support said,
January 28, 2013 at 12:37 am
From A Letter From Lesbia
… So, praise the gods, Catullus is away!
And let me tend you this advice, my dear:
Take any lover that you will, or may,
Except a poet. All of them are queer.
It’s just the same — a quarrel or a kiss
Is but a tune to play upon his pipe.
He’s always hymning that or wailing this;
Myself, I much prefer the business type.
That thing he wrote, the time the sparrow died —
(Oh, most unpleasant — gloomy, tedious words!)
I called it sweet, and made believe I cried;
The stupid fool! I’ve always hated birds …
– Dorothy Parker
thomasbrady said,
January 28, 2013 at 5:03 pm
Little is known about Catullus—was he a Roman, a Celt? We do know this: the world knows of him only because a single book of his survived…
We write down things so we might live.
Whether we write of sparrows or women…?
Poet! Fool! I’ve always hated words!
Dot Parker support said,
January 28, 2013 at 10:55 pm
Parker’s text in a song—
Thus sentimentalized?
Methinks that’s wrong:
Roberto Bolaño support said,
February 16, 2013 at 9:36 pm
According to Padilla, remembered Amalfitano, all literature could be classified as heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual. Novels, in general, were heterosexual. Poetry, on the other hand, was completely homosexual. Within the vast ocean of poetry he identified various currents: faggots, queers, sissies, freaks, butches, fairies, nymphs, and philenes. But the two major currents were faggots and queers. Walt Whitman, for example, was a faggot poet. Pablo Neruda, a queer. William Blake was definitely a faggot. Octavio Paz was a queer. Borges was a philene, or in other words he might be a faggot one minute and simply asexual the next. Rubén Darío was a freak, in fact, the queen freak, the prototypical freak (in Spanish, of course; in the wider world the reigning freak is still Verlaine the Generous). Freaks, according to Padilla, were closer to madhouse flamboyance and naked hallucination, while faggots and queers wandered in stagger-step from ethics to aesthetics and back again. Cernuda, dear Cernuda, was a nymph, and at moments of great bitterness a faggot, whereas Guillén, Aleixandre, and Alberti could be considered a sissy, a butch, and a queer, respectively. As a general rule, poets like Blas de Otero were butches, while poets like Gil de Biedma were—except for Gil de Biedma himself—part nymph and part queer. Recent Spanish poetry, with the tentative exception of the aforementioned Gil de Biedma and probably Carlos Edmundo de Ory, had been lacking in faggot poets until the arrival of the Great Faggot of All Sorrows, Padilla’s favorite poet, Leopoldo María Panero. And yet Panero, it had to be admitted, had fits of bipolar freakishness that made him unstable, inconsistent, and hard to classify. Of Panero’s peers, a curious case was Gimferrer, who was queer by nature but had the imagination of a faggot and the tastes of a nymph. Anyway, the poetry scene was essentially an (underground) battle, the result of the struggle between faggot poets and queer poets to seize control of the word. Sissies, according to Padilla, were faggot poets by birth who, out of weakness or for comfort’s sake, lived within and accepted—most of the time—the aesthetic and personal parameters of the queers. In Spain, France, and Italy, queer poets have always been legion, he said, although a superficial reader might never guess. What happens is that a faggot poet like Leopardi, for example, somehow reconstrues queers like Ungaretti, Montale, and Quasimodo, the trio of death. In the same way, Pasolini redraws contemporary Italian queerdom. Take the case of poor Sanguinetti (I won’t pick on Pavese, who was a sad freak, the only one of his kind). Not to mention France, great country of devouring mouths, where one hundred faggot poets, from Villon to Sophie Podolski, have nurtured, still nurture, and will nurture with the blood of their tits ten thousand queer poets with their entourage of philenes, nymphs, butches, and sissies, lofty editors of literary magazines, great translators, petty bureaucrats, and grand diplomats of the Kingdom of Letters (see, if you must, the shameful and malicious reflections of the Tel Quel poets). And the less said the better about the faggotry of the Russian Revolution, which, if we’re to be honest, gave us just one faggot poet, a single one. Who? you may ask. Mayakovsky? No. Esenin? No. Pasternak? Blok? Mandelstam? Akhmatova? Hardly. There was just one, and I won’t keep you in suspense. He was the real thing, a steppes-and-snow faggot, a faggot through and through: Khlebnikov. And in Latin America, how many true faggots do we find? Vallejo and Martín Adán. Period. New paragraph. Macedonio Fernández, maybe? The rest are queers like Huidobro, fairies like Alfonso Cortés (although some of his poems are authentically fagotty), butches like León de Greiff, butch nymphs like Pablo de Rokha (with bursts of freakishness that would’ve driven Lacan himself crazy), sissies like Lezama Lima, a misguided reader of Góngora, and along with Lezama all the queers and sissies of the Cuban Revolution except for Rogelio Nogueras, who is a nymph with the spirit of a faggot, not to mention, if only in passing, the poets of the Sandinista Revolution: fairies like Coronel Urtecho or queers who wish they were philenes, like Ernesto Cardenal. The Mexican Contemporaries are also queers (no, shouted Amalfitano, not Gilberto Owen!); in fact Death Without End is, along with the poetry of Paz, the “Marseillaise” of the highly nervous Mexican poets. More names: Gelman, nymph; Benedetti, queer; Nicanor Parra, fairy with a hint of faggot; Westphalen, freak; Pellicer, fairy; Enrique Lihn, sissy; Girondo, fairy. And back to Spain, back to the beginning: Góngora and Quevedo, queers; San Juan de la Cruz and Fray Luis de León, faggots. End of story. And now, to satisfy your curiosity, some differences between queers and faggots. Even in their sleep, the former beg for a twelve-inch cock to plow and fertilize them, but at the moment of truth, mountains must be moved to get them into bed with the pretty boys they love. Faggots, on the other hand, seem to live as if a dick were permanently churning their insides, and when they look at themselves in the mirror (something they love and hate with all their heart), they see the Pimp of Death in their own sunken eyes. For faggots and fairies, pimp is the one word that can cross unscathed through the realms of nothingness. But then, too, nothing prevents queers and faggots from being good friends, from neatly ripping one another off, criticizing or praising one another, publishing or burying one another in the frantic and moribund world of letters.
“You missed the category of talking apes,” said Amalfitano when Padilla at last fell silent.
“Ah, those talking apes,” said Padilla, “the faggot apes of Madagascar who refuse to talk so they don’t have to work.”
— from Woes of the True Policeman by Roberto Bolaño (translated from the Spanish by Natasha Wimmer)
thomasbrady said,
February 18, 2013 at 2:13 pm
I favor rough and tumble criticism, but this passage is full of Sadean cruelty, which I don’t condone. Human life can be reduced, by cheap psychology, to carnality, by the tough-talking, just as it can be reduced to wan spirituality, by the polite. Life, if not poetry, is far more complex than either path.
I have never heard Poe called a homosexual, but I notice that most of his readers are men. Maybe this is changing, or will change, as a new phase of Poe Studies begins. I have no idea, but Poe, like the Romantic poets in general, emphasized love, sorrow, and fear, not sex.
thomasbrady said,
February 18, 2013 at 2:16 pm
The knight, love, slays the dragon, lust, finally. The lamp that guides the knight? Good Taste.
thomasbrady said,
February 18, 2013 at 2:20 pm
I hate filth. I love free speech equally. This is the human dilemma.
thomasbrady said,
February 18, 2013 at 2:24 pm
Psychological/political rant is the most insidious and the most prevalent enemy of love, beauty, taste, and poetry in our time.
thomasbrady said,
February 18, 2013 at 2:31 pm
Anyone can blather about Whitman’s sexuality. But who talks about Emerson’s? The latter’s is secret and unknown–and thus ten times more interesting.
noochness said,
February 18, 2013 at 5:18 pm
While I agree that
The passage isn’t lyrical,
I think it’s intended
To be classed as satirical—
Mocking our age in which
Poems are ignored,
But re: poets’ sexuality it’s asked:
“Who’s getting bored?”
thomasbrady said,
February 18, 2013 at 9:00 pm
Nooch, you are probably right.
I didn’t read the passage in that light.