Ezra Pound: Did a fatal error cripple the Modernist revolution?
Poetry today is in the worst state imaginable: 1) not popular, 2) not respected, and 3) not understood.
“Not popular” would not hurt so much if poetry were respected, and “not respected” would not hurt so much if poetry were understood—by even a few! But, alas…
If something is neither popular, respected, or understood, the game is up. It’s time to walk away.
But hold on. Poetry does exist and everyone knows it when they experience it, like a cool breeze on a hot summer day. But poetry now is like an act of nature: it’s a nice thing, a useful thing, it exists, but, amazingly, it eludes institutional or human knowledge.
There are two issues:
1) isolating poetry from what resembles it (prose, fragments, ordinary speech) and
2) creating poetry from what it should resemble (beauty, intelligence, inspiration, song).
Now, what happens when 1) and 2) are reversed?
What happens when poetry is created from prose and isolated from beauty?
The Modernist revolution, of course.
As Pound complained of “beauties” of the “deceased” in his revolutionary 1929 New York Herald Tribune article:
Literary instruction in our “institutions of learning” was, at the beginning of this century, cumbrous and inefficient. I dare say it still is. Certain more or less mildly exceptional professors were affected by the “beauties” of various authors (usually deceased), but the system, as a whole, lacked sense and co-ordination. I dare say it still does.
One can see the Modernist advantage: poetry does resemble prose, and prose is readily available to us. But Beauty? That’s harder to define. One can see superficially how the Modernist revolution would, without much effort, succeed.
But what does one notice about this revolution? Two things. The great reversal was 1) radical (thus it was called a revolution) and 2) practical: poetry is now closer to prose
The advocates and beneficiaries (there are a few) of the Modernist revolution, and probably everyone else, would agree this is what essentially occured as the 20th century unfolded: the reversal of 1) and 2).
Against all odds, Ezra Pound took on Palgrave’s Golden Treasury—and won.
The Modernist revolution apparently did something good. Or did it?
It did not. And why? Because the reversal of 1) and 2) was not beneficial. The reason is simple—so obvious that we’ve all missed it.
Formal poetry has as much prose as free verse.
Prose is not really the issue at all.
By assuming otherwise, we “see” a “revolution” where there is really none.
Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary, over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore, while I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping, as of some one gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door.
So much depends upon a red wheel barrow glazed with rain water beside the white chickens.
Here are two examples. The first is from ”The Raven” (1845) by Edgar Poe, the second is the entirety of “The Red Wheel Barrow” (1923) by William Carlos Williams.
Poe was an astute grammarian—and the correct use of commas helps his passage surge forward as a creative piece of prose.
Is the Williams more interesting as prose? Does it seem more like real speech?
Neither.
When we compare Poe’s iconic 19th century poem—supposedly the fussy verse the Vers Libre Modernists were rebelling against—to an iconic piece of Modernism, “The Red Wheel Barrow,” we find something odd: the Williams poem is not moving towards ease of prose or speech; compared to the Poe, the Williams poem evinces neither interesting verse nor interesting prose.
Williams presents his tiny poem (in the spread-out way we usually see it) as if it were a billboard looming over Times Square, or as if he didn’t understand how to use commas and therefore subsituted white space.
The Poe is a far better example of good prose writing, and of good writing, period. The singular feature of the revolutionary Modernist poem is a kind of lame ekphrasis or a lame version of Pound’s phanopoeia—jokey, superficial, childish. Are Pound’s “institutions of learning” meant to teach good prose—or unorthodox word-arrangement?
So where is this “reversal” between Romantic poems of verse/beauty and Modernist poems of speech/prose?
ooops!
It didn’t really happen at all.
But what happens if we all go on thinking it did?
The current train wreck of contemporary poetry?
Wordsworth’s advocacy of plain speech always rang hollow; the Modernists have been guilty of the same thing.
The problem isn’t that there really wasn’t a Modernist revolution—the problem is that we believe and act as if there were a Modernist revolution. We somehow believe that Shakespeare and Shelley and Milton and Poe wrote poetry burdened by the fact that it wasn’t prose and that the Modernist revolution freed us from this burden by putting prose into poetry.
But prose was always in poetry.
If we ask which era best turned prose into poetry, we would probably point to the “Shakespeare through Tennyson” era, but then we’d point out that the Modernists were better at turning poetry into prose. But from our Poe/Williams example above, we see this isn’t true: the great formalists, it could be said, not only turned prose into poetry, they also turned poetry into prose—since their poems triumph as great works of prose. In fact, there is no difference: the good poet will always do both. The Modernists did not lead a revolution of making poetry more like prose—because the finest prose always inhabits successful formalist poetry.
And as far as “speech,” goes, Byron, the Romantic, wrote poetry closer to speech than Williams, the Modernist, and good actors can make the elevated language of Shakespeare sound like speech. A mixture of high and low will generally prevail in dramatic poetry, in any age, whether for the stage, or not.
This is surely why there was a sudden frenzy on the part of the Modernists, mid-way through their (failed) revolution to emphasize “difficulty.” The Modernists must have felt (if not known) the error of their vers libre ways, and looked about for something else to fuel the revolution that was dying a slow Imagiste death. The institutionally-connected New Critics arose, rescuing the revolution of Pound and Williams with the New Critical smokescreen of “ironies” and “close-reading ” and ”tension between prose and verse,” an attempt to win by surrendering, or hitting a target by missing it. This distraction worked. “Understanding Poetry,” authored by two New Critics, got into all the high schools and GI Bill colleges. The revolution was saved.


Diane Roberts Powell said,
November 29, 2012 at 4:49 am
Pound should have used the toilet paper, that he used to scrawl his Pisan Cantos on, to wipe his ass.
thomasbrady said,
November 29, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Thanks, Diane. We do believe this essay of ours, “You’re Stupid, And Ezra Pound Is Not,” hits the nail on the head and should be widely dispersed. You certainly understand the spirit, though!
Diane Roberts Powell said,
November 30, 2012 at 12:57 am
Hey Thomas,
Did you know that one of the men who “rescued” Pound, by having him committed, instead of executed, was James “Jesus Christ” Angleton, the CIA super spook? (Well, it was then still OSS.) At St. Elizabeth’s, we find Dr. Overholser, another OSS/CIA spook who conducted mind control experiments on his patients. However, it seems unlikely anything of that nature happened to Pound. Dr. Overholser was quite fascinated with him, and moved his room so that Pound was close to his own quarters.
thomasbrady said,
November 30, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Thanks, Diane, I didn’t know that!
A cursory look at Wiki brings up a lot of interesting material http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Jesus_Angleton
I like this: “a wilderness of mirrors,” a phrase connected to both T.S. Eliot and Angleton.
And this from wiki: The term Angletonian is an adjective used to describe something conspiratorial, overly paranoid, bizarre, eerie or arcane.
You should check out Pound and Eliot’s lawyer, John Quinn, from the Waste Land, period; Quinn, too was Secret Intelligence, Golden Dawn, associated wtih Aleister Crowley, etc.
Ron Silliman, Charles Bernstein, Marjorie Perloff, Harold Bloom, and Helen Vendler, or anyone who wants to be “respectable” will never talk about this kind of thing, but it obviously impacts not only literary reputation, but how poets think, write, and act.
Now that the CIA’s “anti-communist” role in supporting modernist poetry and art has come to light, Angleton and Eliot/Pound chimes in quite nicely. No one, obviously, knows the whole story, but anyone should be able to see the writing on the wall: there was much more to T.S. Eliot, Ezra Pound and their New Critic/Modernist allies than meets the eye. I’m not saying that we should get too distracted by the murky intelligence/politics of it all, but we shouldn’t pretend it didn’t exist either, since it’s pretty obvious now that it did, and it was pretty important.
Tom
Diane Roberts Powell said,
December 1, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Hey Tom!
Well, Bernstein did write the essay “Pounding Pound,” and delivered it at Yale, I believe. Needless to say, his views didn’t receive a warm reception. As far as mentioning anything about the CIA’s role in any of this, I don’t think he has. The CIA funded several magazines, including The Paris Review, and Kenyon Review, as I’m sure you know.
I think it’s sad that the poets and critics you mentioned seem myopic as far as all of that is concerned. If there was ever any doubt in anyone’s mind as to what Pound meant in his Cantos, he specifically elucidates upon this in his radio speeches. Surprise! They are all about his fascist ideals, and filled with anti-Semitsm and hate. Sure, there may be some lovely phrases here and there, but it’s not enough to redeem it in my eyes.
And when he told Ginsberg that his biggest problem had been his “suburban anti-Semitism,” it was absurd. He tried to make himself out to be just an average Joe, and a product of his time. That is a joke. I would think that “suburban anti-Semitism” would include restricted country clubs and other sorts of hateful clannishness. I don’t think it would include worshiping Mussolini and Hitler, and getting on the radio, during WWII, and gloating over the holocaust.
Diane Roberts Powell said,
December 1, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Hey, I think Bernstein wrote, “Pounding Fascism,” not “Pounding Pound,” although I wish he would have. Perhaps, it was just wishful thinking on my part. And, looking back over his essay, it seems like he wants to seperate the fascist from his fascist writings. No, Mr. Bernstein, Pound was not delusional or insane. Many Nazis held PhDs.
I think that I would ask all of them to read “Under Cover,” by Carlson. It is about a man who posed as a Nazi and fascist in order to expose them (in the US.) The groups he infiltrated had the same kind of views as Pound. His beliefs were not something he plucked out of thin air.
Oh, and I’ll check out that Quinn. The Golden Dawn were satanists.
thomasbrady said,
December 3, 2012 at 2:14 am
Diane,
I heard the CIA funded Horizon magazine, run by Auden and Isherwood’s friend, Stephen Spender. I did not know about the Kenyon Review, Ransom’s magazine. Robert Lowell was dying to study with New Critic John Crowe Ransom; Lowell left Harvard to do so; Lowell must have known something. Lowell’s family psychiatrist was a New Critic, too. All the New Critics were Rhodes Scholars who studied in Britain.
I’m sure Charles Bernstein didn’t go into the disturbing facts of Pound and his friends—he wouldn’t be a respectable professor somewhere today if he did.
J.L. Austin, the language philosopher who is responsible for Bernstein’s Language Poetry, worked for MI6 (British Intelligence).
Pound was met off the boat when he went to England by Ford Madox Ford, who worked for a pro-war British government propaganda agency (WW I) and Ford ended up coming to America to teach Creative Writing with the New Critics. Pound also befriended Yeats (Golden Dawn) who, like John Quinn, worked against Irish interests as a double agent for the British–I believe Yeats intentionally tried to subvert Maude Gonne, an Irish patriot. Joyce was chosen to be the 20rh cen Irish writer by the Pound clique because Joyce portrayed the Irish as dysfunctoinal drunks; similarly Faulkner became the great Southern writer for portraying Southerners as dysfunctional, as well. Realism replaced Idealism in literature. Poe was a target because of his idealist writings. Think of all the great writers before the 20th century—Virgil, Ovid, Dante, Shakespeare, Milton, Swift, Pope, Shelley, Keats…they were Idealists, not Realists. Much of the increasingly bizarre literary politics of the 20th century comes down to British Empire interests, seen through the mist of sly, clandestine, divide-and-conquer tactics; the Brits, and their American inheritors, were anti-communist, anti-fascist, pro-communist, pro-fascist, anti-war, pro-war, pro-this, anti-that, when it suited them. It takes a certain kind of mind to navigate the ‘wilderness of mirrors.’ Spies need to be smart—they even need to be poets, sometimes.
Tom
Diane Powell said,
December 3, 2012 at 2:49 am
Hey Tom,
I am going to try to send you a couple of links to some material I’ve been reading today.
As far as them being “pro-fascist, anti-fascist,..etc. as it suits them,” I have finally come to realize what is going on. You are right, it is very confusing. I’m sure that you have read Hegel. His philosophy influenced both communism and fascism. It has to do with his chaos theory. If you confuse people, you control them. Or, if I fear you, you control me, and vice versa. Look at Operation Chaos. The CIA and FBI used supposed radicals to infiltrate the anti-war movement. That’s why you see people on the left who act like fascists–because they are. Now, the FBI did infiltrate the KKK, but all they did was basically sit around with their thumbs up their butts, instead of helping anyone out. Wasn’t their an FBI informant present when those civil rights workers were murdered in Mississippi?
The Universities are institutions, and they will never allow real radicals in. Institutions, by there very nature, are conservative. Now, I’m not calling Silliman or Bernstein conservatives, but they certainly are not revolutionaries, even though they may think of themselves in that way.
I’m going to try to send you a letter that Pound wrote to Angleton in 1939. If my links don’t come out, give me another email address, if you would like, and I will try to send them again. One is a link to a Yale article that concerns Angleton and some of the issues you brought up, especially the second paragraph.
Diane http://www.orgs.muohio.edu/ezrapound/
http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/brbldl/oneITEM.asp?id=2026709&iid=1099869&srchtype=ITEM
http://yaledailynews.com/weekend/2012/01/13/academics-anonymous/
thomasbrady said,
December 4, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Thanks, this is great stuff, from the Yale News:
James Jesus Angleton ’41, breeder of rare orchids and disputably a paranoiac, founded and edited the short-lived but reputable literary magazine, Furioso, during his time as an undergraduate at Yale. Beginning a series of enthusiastic correspondences with Ezra Pound after the two met in Italy during the summer of 1938, Angleton published Pound’s poems along with the work of Cummings, MacLeish and Williams in his magazine the next year. But more ink has been spilled describing Angleton’s life than those of his beloved poets. Returning to Washington after World War II, Angleton would go on to help found the Central Intelligence Agency.
His early literary activities and engagement with the school of New Criticism at Yale, which focused on the exclusion of authorial intent and readers’ emotion in the close readings of texts, were later by no means inconsequential to his lifelong career as the “mother of counterintelligence.”
Mark said,
December 3, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Wow… more ignorant than usual, Tom.
You say: “I’m sure Charles Bernstein didn’t go into the disturbing facts of Pound and his friends—he wouldn’t be a respectable professor somewhere today if he did.”
Bernstein begins the essay in question with the line: “The virulent antisemitism and fascism that are not only at the core of Ezra Pound’s political beliefs but also taint his poetry and poetics can be excused, moderated, or rationalized only at the cost of all such special pleading: willed ignorance allowing for a continuing reign of totalitarianism masking as authority, racism posing as knowledge, and elitism claiming the prerogatives of culture.”
Took me all of 30 seconds to find that online. I seem to recall his subsequent essay on Pound being far more harsh.
Good thing you never fall into the trap of thinking before you speak, Tom. Just go with your gut – fuck the facts
Hugs and kisses,
Mark
Diane Powell said,
December 3, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Hey Tom,
I don’t mind you posting what I sent you yesterday, but would you please remove my email address. And no, it’s not the government I’m worried about, it’s those crazy skin-head fascist Nazis. They can be quite dangerous. I think they could use my email address to find out where I live. When researching Pound, as you well know, a huge amount of those kinds of web sites from groups like that pop up. I don’t have a problem posting my name to anything though. I’m not afraid of other poets, although they can get pretty nasty, lol.
Also, are you the same Tom Graves who wrote a biography on Robert Johnson?
Thanks,
Diane Powell
thomasbrady said,
December 4, 2012 at 5:50 pm
No, Diane, that’s not me.
I’m the force behind all the work on Scarriet.
Tom
thomasbrady said,
December 4, 2012 at 5:49 pm
Mawk,
Identifying Pound with antisemitism and fascism is run-of-the-mill. No one can deny this. More to the point is the entire network of Pound’s Modernism which was mentioned above: Pound’s connection to John Quinn and Angleton and secret intelligence, Pound’s friend Ford Madox Ford’s War Propaganda position in WW I Britain, Pound’s connection to New Criticsm, the far-right identity of most Modernists generally, the broader identity of the whole kit and kaboodle, the real scoop, in other words. I didn’t have to read Bernstein’s essay to know Bernstein would not touch that.
Tom
Mark said,
December 5, 2012 at 4:44 am
If we’re talking “disturbing facts,” Tom, I find fascism and antisemitism far more disturbing than a bunch of fey poets publishing their friends.
thomasbrady said,
December 5, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Mark,
No one is saying fascism and anti-semitism are not disturbing facts. The question is How Do These Things Operate in Letters, re: Pound and his Allies in Letters? It is not playing down something disturbing to investigate how it is manifested in higher avenues. We can find important things out this way. It is not enough to point to jackboots and ranting speeches; the answer often lies in more nuanced and insidious passageways.
Tom
Diane Roberts Powell said,
December 4, 2012 at 6:40 am
Tom,
You are a very naughty boy. I live in KKK country. Oh well, if I wake up to find a cross burning in my front yard, I’ll toast some marshmallows.
Which kind of reminds me of this weirdo KKK man named Dent Myers, who lives here. He has a shop in downtown Kennesaw, Georgia that is filled with KKK and Nazi memorabilia, anti-Semitic magazines, and large photos of lynching victims. All of the townsfolk adore him, even the police. He wears a holster with a couple of loaded pistols, and sports a beard that is some kind of an ode to Confederate dead. I wrote a poem about him titled, “I’m OK, You’re Not OK, Because You’re a Member of the KKK.” I cannot imagine why I couldn’t find anyone to publish it in Georgia.
Diane Roberts Powell said,
December 5, 2012 at 9:44 pm
While he was imprisoned in Pisa, Pound told the guards that he didn’t think he would be excuted because he had friends in high places, and because he knew a lot of dirt on them. One of the things that Angleton did while in Italy, was to round up Nazis. But not to punish them, as one would suppose. He gathered information from them and then shipped many of them to the US under Project Paperclip.
thomasbrady said,
December 6, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Diane,
Winston Churchill’s son, Randolph, who married Pamela Digby (later Harriman) hung out with Nazis. Nazism was international thuggery and not all Nazis were Germans. Just as Emerson secretly banked on Britain taking back her American colonies, many intellectuals, Eliot, Pound, etc, banked on the Nazis to win. Look at the behavior of the New Critics in the 30s: they were “Take My Stand” Southern right-wingers. After the smashing defeat of the Nazi menance in 1945, a lot of people changed their tune. But thuggery goes on, it goes underground, etc. Our job at Scarriet is to note cultural fascism, the fascism of poets and artists. Why is Poe hated and attacked? It’s because of this secret cultural war…
Tom